Identify the AFV & Tank




This entry is from Frank

Frank expressed an interest in joining the unit…I fear that if I provided a link here, we’d have several blog readers deploying.

Or you could join retroactively…


Bullet Points:

** Sometimes you have to accept that people are shitty humans and stop trying to see the good that isn’t there.

** Purses vs Knives –  From The Bee –  JACKSONVILLE, FL — A married couple was seen wandering the mall Monday when the owner of one cool knife stopped to take a gander at more cool knives on display in the window of the Stabology storefront. The owner of 73 purses then asked her companion why he needed more than one cool knife.

“Don’t you already have a cool knife?” asked the woman who owned a batch of purses for each day of the week. “And didn’t it cost a lot of money?” She added, somehow forgetting about her Vera Bradley satchel.

** “Beer Train Derails” – I gave thought to volunteering for the clean-up until I heard that the train carried Coors Light and Blue Moon.

** If a woman is chugging chocolate chips out of the bag at the baking aisle at the grocery store, I suggest that you let her be.


From the Days of Fighting Sail

The loyal toast, but please stay seated

The privilege of the Royal Navy to remain seated while drinking to the health of the Sovereign is traditional, but has an obscure origin. There are three popular theories:

One is that King Charles II (1630-1685) bumped his head on board the Royal Charles when he rose to return the toast;

2. that King George IV (1762-1830) as Regent and dining on board one of His Majesty’s ships, said when the officers rose to toast the King’s health, “Gentlemen, please remain seated, your loyalty is above suspicion”;

3. that King William IV (1765-1837), as Duke of Clarence (Lord High Admiral), bumped his head when he rose at dinner on one of His Majesty’s ships.


“To wives and sweethearts- may they never meet”

On many wooden ships, it was almost impossible to stand upright between decks when expecting the deck beams. Even on ships with a pronounced “tumble-home” (i.e. steeply sloping sides), it was difficult for anyone sitting close to the ship’s side to stand at all. This privilege of remaining seated did not apply to the naval messes ashore. On board, it was customary for the president of the mess to give the toast and then ask the youngest member of the mess present to return the toast.




Stool of Grapeshot, 1800-24

This small collection of musket balls, “quilted” or wrapped in burlap and twine netting with wooden ends, was a deadly package. It could be used at short range and was designed to incapacitate as many of an enemy ship’s crew as possible. Loaded into a small rail-mounted gun, the quilted or sewn cloth disintegrated when fired, scattering the shotgun pellets much like a modern shotgun. And served to decimate the opponent’s crew.


  1. Identify the AFV & Tank:
    AFV: M42 Duster (Gulf of Aqaba Tank Reef)
    Tank: Tank, Cruiser, Mk II (A10)

  2. # 1: A couple M-42 Dusters and (I think) an FV-104 Samaritan.

    #2 Looks like an A9 Cruiser tank… certainly one of the cruisers.

    That looks like a good unit, but if I were in, they’d need another fat bastard to sit on the other side of the helo, or we’d just keep going in circles. Maybe a bigger helo, too.


      • Yes, that sounds like a better plan – a Chinook, or at least a Sea King.

        I could also ride inside, and reduce the aesthetic complaints from the neighbors.

        Now I just need to figure out my role in the team – I think I’m probably best suited for “irritating McGuffin that the unit needs to drag around with them”. I could try for “oblivious VIP”, but none of those initials apply to me.


  3. Never underestimate humans getting better ways to kill each other.

    On a smaller scale to grapeshot in the late 1800’s in rural Australia they made wire shot to extend the range of shotguns. You dip the shot in soap or wax, roll it in lead foil (usually from tea chests), then wrap in fine copper wire. Then crimp into 10 or 12 gauge shell. Added about 50 yards to range or up close it was a rapidly expanding solid.

    Occasionally tempted to copy but it would need to low pressure to match black powder.

    • I never heard of wire shot. You can do a lot with something like a Brown Bess. They used buck & ball to great effect. I’m sure that wire shot could be rigged. It snowed at the White Wolf Mine as I arrived home last night. If the weather continues to suck, it will give me more tinkering time and an idle mind is the devil’s workshop.

  4. m42 duster, i worked on those to get them to the shipyard, and others that went to turkey during some conflict or other in the ’90’s……too bad it wasn’t a bud light train. kid rock vid going viral, of him firing an mp5 into a stack of dud lite, commemorating 365 days of being a “girl” of some tranny. real smart bud lite, real smart. he’s not even a real tranny, just acting like one, and you trash your whole customer base? lol…..knives, have a kbar and a couple bayonets but just not that into them except to always have one on my person. ar’s are another thing, infinite variety and there’s always something new to build…..well, today’s the big day. good luck Mr. President (the real one).

    • Do misremember or was not grape and chain used to damage rigging as well as human beings . Cutting the correct halyard would drop the main on the deck ,which would certainly be detrimental to the enemy.

  5. Beer train derailment- On the [Jimmy Choo] heels of Budweiser announcing their mental patient as their ‘man-bun light beer” spokes-gender TBD. CONSPIRACY I say!

    Frank’s submittal- Gives new meaning to tactical balance being critical in such operations. Come to think of it, Surly and Kle may have a tough time naming that Tank…Top…but the Helo?, probably get that in 3 seconds.

    • That’s just the managers of Stella getting some sales boosted by destroying their internal competition. Gotta hand it to European managers, they learned the art of creative destruction well.

      • One wonders. Yet it’s odd to me how over the past few years companies intentionally harmed their bottom line. What else could this one be if not this, unless it was an actual ‘not planned’ derailment.

        Yet another train wreck, something we hardly heard of before these amateurs took over. But do not be dismayed, Petey B. has this well-handled I’m sure.

  6. Choco chips in aisle 12? Easy solution: Grab a bottle of champagne from the cold case before entering into the fray, preferably open it as you approach the target.

    • Yeah, I don’t know. I think that I’d do a tactical withdrawal and find another store…

      • Probably best, unless one needs a little excitement to spice up the day. However, it could result in giving new meaning to “Clean up in aisle 12!”

        • If you’re married to her, the proper greeting is “see you in two weeks, dear.”

          Do not ask me how I know this…….

    • One other factor is that the high life-expectancy places include those popular with rich retirees who move there once already old, skewing the stats.

      Very few rich retirees move to Birmingham.


      • I have a friend who retired to Scottsboro (not all that far from Bumminham). I don’t think that anyone would think that he’s rich. Maybe ‘comfortable’ is a better term, but I digress. There are areas where the healthcare may be better, or things like diet, lower incidence of tobacco use or rates of alcoholism are evident. In Arizona, it would seem as if the Rez. has something to do with the cause and effect.

  7. Re standing on a ship for a toast, the ‘tween decks were maybe five feet on the average, so you could only ‘stand’ on centerline and between the joists. As was mentioned, the tumblehome design also made it problematic to stand if you were outboard. The gun decks were usually worse, many of them were only four feet between decks. Grapeshot was/is very effective! Much like flechettes today, they were designed to ‘sweep’ the decks clear prior to boarding actions.

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