First, a thank you to Steve S., in Texas, who suggested that we delve a bit deeper into Hydroxychloroquine (HOQ) and chloroquine.

Second, as readers here know, I am not a doctor and I don’t play one on television. All I do is offer opinions based on the best facts available to me and you all will have your own views on the matter as well.

Third, this is a blog, not a scientific journal. I try to avoid long winded rants. So I’ll cut to the chase and the doctors and others, who visit here, can fact check me and rip my arguments to shreds.

Yes, I know that HOQ has been available for decades to treat malaria, lupus, etc. But I’m not going to delve there because that’s hardly the point of this discussion. Assume that it’s been around and that when prescribed and monitored by health officials, it’s safe – and inexpensive.

More later, but the VA studies and others that were focused on HOQ were made in large part on critically ill patients on ventilators. That’s not a fair way to study the effectiveness of HOQ. Today, I think that there are more balanced studies underway.

SARS Outbreak – 2003

Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is a viral respiratory illness caused by a coronavirus, first reported in China in February 2003. It’s not the first Chinese Plague and as we know now, it certainly wasn’t the last. SARS spread around the globe. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), a total of 8,098 people worldwide became sick with SARS during the 2003 outbreak. Of these, 774 died. In the United States, only eight people had laboratory evidence of SARS-CoV infection. All of these people had traveled to other parts of the world where SARS was spreading.

The Virology Journal – (2005) the official publication of ( the now famous Dr. Fauci’s) National Institutes of Health, “Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.”

“We report…that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage.”

When the SARS epidemic happened (don’t trust WHO numbers, but you know that, right?) epidemiologists sprang into action to study the virus and to explore its ancestry. Note that SARS had a pedigree and that COVID-19/the Present Chinese Pandemic/Plague does not. COVID-19 is a novel virus – which intimates that somebody tinkered with a coronavirus at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. ALL Chinese programs such as this one, such as their nuclear power program are dual use. That means that there is no “peaceful nuclear” or “peaceful biological” program in Communist China. Everything is on a dual track for a weapon as well. USGOV knows this. And roughly since I was born, the Wuhan Institute of Virology was the Chinese bug factory. And I’m old.

Since before SARS, US companies have provided Communist China, an enemy state, with sophisticated technology to research viruses – with the approval of USGOV. Make of that what you will.

COVID-19 Outbreak – 2019

Sometime in January 2019,  it became apparent that cases of an unusual form of viral pneumonia were being seen in Hubei Province and more specifically in the City and area of Wuhan.

Recommendations as to what to do about it were across the board. If you read back, my recommendation was to immediately quarantine Communist China. The Nationalist Chinese government on Taiwan expressed similar concerns. Chinese doctors (who were likely killed by the government) went loud and went international with a warning.

Early on, a number of physicians began to treat plague victims with Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin in combination, showing very positive results. The testimonials are on the Internet and there is no need to cite them here. There are a lot of them.

There are other therapeutic treatments that also show promise. AIDS treatment programs (though AIDS is a very different virus) seem to work.

Hydroxychloroquine remains in your body a long time after you take it and it distributes itself in all organ systems in the body. If you have kidney, heart of liver disease it can do more harm than good. So dosage and the general cause and effect of the drug need to be monitored. It isn’t an aspirin. There are clinical trials underway to determine specifically how it should be used on humans (Phase 2 trials) and once complete can be used more widely than it is now. For me, personally, if I was dying of the Chinese Plague, I’d say “give me the drug”. US law offers the “right to try”.

There is another argument, and that deals with the impact of  HOQ, an inexpensive, readily available drug to treat a pandemic and the concern by large, wealthy, influential, politically astute international companies that they will make .20 per dose in a world where they’d like to charge $200.00 per dose. Drug companies will charge as much as they can and ALL of the big pharma conglomerates are working for a vaccine and are studying the therapeutic drugs out there. USGOV is underwriting their efforts.

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The “Evil Dr. Fauci”

I don’t know whether Dr. Fauci, MD, is evil or not. I think that much of his advice that has served this country for good or ill has been ‘spitballing’. Make of that opinion as you will.

It’s time we open the place up and get those with health conditions that would be lethal to them if they got sick to a place (their home or that of a loved one) where they can hang out until a vaccine is available.

22 COMMENTS

  1. Noice summary/sitrep!
    None Dare Call it Conspiracy by Gary Allen was a book I discovered way *way* back in the 80s (written in the 70s iirc). Stealing secrets/IP/patents/ has been going on a long *long* time, and could only be accomplished by actors within US.gov and corporates (a kind of public/private partnership heh) giving support and encouragement. Ahhh, if only we could see the traitors.

    But is it stealing if its ur very own .gov gifting ur IP paid for with your tax money? Why yes, yes it is.

    • None Dare Call it Conspiracy was a sequel to None Dare Call it Treason – I think. Maybe I have it backwards. For the first time in my lifetime, people are waking up to the awful truth that the their government is buying their votes with their tax money and then betraying them.

      Thanks for your contribution and comment.

  2. Yep, HCQ/Z-pacs worked IF given early enough, not when the patient was already on a vent, but that was poo-pooed by the media because Trump mentioned it. As far as I’m concerned, a LOT of the deaths are squarely on the media for this panic… Grrr…

    • CNN/MSNBC have freedom of the press. But they are culpable of great evil and continue to spew their lies, their hatred and so forth. They despise people like us, Old NFO, who served, they despise the Clinton “deplorables” and the people in fly-over country.

  3. Just came from my doctor’s office. He said he thinks most peeps around here had Wuflu back in Jan. He was swamped with “flu” patients and when they were tested they came up negative for flu. He couldn’t figure out what the heck was going on. Then when Wuflu happened he twigged that those people in all probability had Wuflu and not regular flu. Just thought I’d throw that out here…

    • We now know we had it…weird one but not flu. Affected us both slightly differently and took 3 weeks to fully vacate the effects. Self medicated with things on hand, including Z-pac’s and zinc…imagine that.

      • Adrienne and Camperfixer – I ‘may’ have had it. I haven’t been tested for antibodies, but I was sick with ‘the flu’ for about a month in January. Got if from my granddaughters. Irrespective of what I had personally, there are others (Jules from England; Jenny from Dallas, etc.) who had COVID 19. They took vitamins, they cared for themselves and they got well.

  4. “Since before SARS, US companies have provided Communist China, an enemy state, with sophisticated technology to research viruses – with the approval of USGOV. Make of that what you will.”

    One of the old commies ( Marx, Linin (sp?), Stalin ? ) wrote/said that the capitalists would sell the rope used to hang them. One of the few truths he/they expressed.

    Thanks for the post.
    Paul L. Quandt

    • He also said, “Give me a child until he is eight, and he will be a Bolshevist forever.” And think on the present education system, where they don’t read Animal Farm or 1984 anymore because they are “subversive”.

  5. Excellent sitrep. I knew the dual drug w/ zinc protocol was the right answer when the media and some Trump hating doctors came out against it, then dug around in the back corner of the closet for the VA study without offering patient background context.

    THIS, in a heartbeat: “For me, personally, if I was dying of the Chinese Plague, I’d say “give me the drug”.”

    • Zinc seems to be one of the key elements to treat the virus. But quinine is also helpful. Both are cheap. Big Pharma hates cheap.

      • Many – including the veterinary bride – have stated the zinc “opens up the cells” to allow the med’s to attack the virus. As they say, better living through chemistry.

  6. I’m “attending” via Zoom a class on clinical trial design as I type this. There is a “discussion” wherein students are being grilled on why research on anticoagulation for some WuFlu patients (the “go” is based on certain common tests) is a good idea, but research on hydroxychloroquine and remdesivir do not meet that standard. (If it were a trial, the counsel would be accused of leading the witness.)

    The answer is simple. Trump spoke the words “hydroxychloroquine” and “remdesivir”. Therefore those are evil because Orange Man Bad. The leftist political rot in Academic Medicine in general, and Schools of Public Health in particular, is immense.

    On a personal note, I find that cardiac surgeons and interventional cardiologists (the doorkickers of the medical world), both famed for being aggressive, are actually very polite at professional conferences. However, many of the senior people who attend epidemiology conferences are stick-armed, slack bellied, hollow chested men. They are *horrible* to each other, and worse, horrible to their juniors, grad students and post-docs. The take home lesson is *weak men in power are more likely to abuse that power than strong men*. Giving the public health types power is dangerous because of the general personality type, and because of their leftism.

    • *weak men in power are more likely to abuse that power than strong men*

      From your mouth to God’s ear, Mike_C. Small men (Beto O’Rorque comes to mind and so does Adam Schiff) who are granted power tend to strut and bluster like Little Napoleons, but without Napoleon’s talent.

      Thanks for your comments.

    • I saw her account on Fox News. She was a compelling witness for the effectiveness of HOQ/Zpac. Dr. Marc Siegel (Fox) treated his dying 95 year old father with HOQ with similar results. The only reason that the Donkeys hate the therapy is that President Trump said that it showed promise. They have an unreasoning hatred and seems to have no depth, no bottom.

      Look, I understand “loyal opposition”. Western democracies are built around the right to disagree, but the Donkeys would rather see one of their own die, than listen to reason. And therein lies the heart of the problem. You have a great radio show and tend to strike where the questions and answers resonate.

  7. Well that’s just it, HOQ’s cheap. Can’t be having that now, might hurt someone’s monumental, murderous greed.

    Did you notice the epidemiologist who was killed the other day? And what about those two Canadian pharma millionaires a little while back, hanged and worse. Barry and Honey Sherman.

    Just throwing it out there.

    • There is a great deal of skulduggery surfacing but it’s not easy to put all of the pieces together. One constant is greed and in that world, nobody is more greedy and amoral than Big Pharma.

      I have a friend who is a Harvard MD who took a US Naval commission and then went back to school for a postdoc in psychiatry. The text of almost all of our conversations involved evil Big Pharma. Discussing it all here would require that I write a book.

      • Such deep, utter, depraved iniquity. Someone(s) who’s very brave needs to blow the lid off. Satanic? I won’t go on.

  8. There is no “cure” for most viral illnesses. The cure is your bodies immune system ramping up leukocytes and other immune cells to hunt down and kill the virus. Medications help keep you from succumbing while your bodies defenses get up to speed. The Hydroxychloroquine regimen can help slow viral replication buying your body time to build up a response. Antivirals like Remdesivir can also buy time for younr immune system to get into high gear. No single treatment is going to be “”it”. For some the HOQ regimen if given early will be he key, for others antivirals may work best. For some however no medication will be needed and for others no medication will be of help. Treating viral illness is very different from treating bacterial infections.

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