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The H&K G11
This explains why we as a species need to bully engineers into going outside occasionally. The G11 was an overbuilt, overly complicated, and strange rifle for any decade, especially the 1980’s. This hunk of plastic haunts the dreams of members of the Bundeswehr.
H&K had to deal with new problems in the mid-1960s:
1: The Bundeswehr wanted a new rifle. While they had adopted the G3 and later variants of it, by the late 1960’s it was now out-of-sync. The M16 and later M16A1 set a new standard for rifles, and gradually over the 1970’s more and more NATO nations moved in that direction: The FN FNC, the Beretta AR70, the FAMAS, the AUG and so on. The G3 was outdated. And they didn’t want the HK33 because…
2: The “advanced combat rifle” concept was still popular. Ever since WWII and the Korean War, military strategists wanted to improve individual soldier’s hit probability. A whole host of concepts had begun floating around at the time to do so. Low power optical sights, high speed 2 round burst systems, large magazine capacity, easily storable ammo.
Take those two issues and be that engineer who sees how the Bundeswehr wants something new. And they shall GET new. Over the next decade, the G11 took shape. Mostly made of polymer, firing a 4.73mm caseless cartridge at either a 500~ RPM in full auto or a 1,800 RPM 3-round burst. It was sleek, space-age and after two whole decades within the oven, it was ready for large-scale troop trials.
In 1990.
When the East and West Germans were reuniting.
The G11 process was retired due to “not meeting NATO standardization” as well as being so overly expensive to a reuniting Germany as to possibly cause issues. There was a joke that circulated: “Either the West Germans could adopt the G11 or re-integrate East Germany”.
It is feature creep, in gun form, and destroyed any chance of the G11 ever happening. This thing is bulky with 50 round mags as long as police batons, and parts so fragile that it had a service life for certain components of 6000 rounds~. It’d make the G36 look like a milled AK in comparison. It was doomed no matter how you cut it, but it’s funny to laugh at now. Laugh at the funny cube.
Identify the Mystery Aircraft
Extra points if you can identify the nation that flys the one pictured.
What great memes! And the HK was new to me.
It withered on the vine. Too much of a good thing, I guess.
Well, win some, lose some. But speaking of winning, there’s clearly a space for a CONTRACT NAVY.
Just a thought.
The el-bizarro caseless ammo was the piece de resistance.
-Kle.
A Sukhoi Flanker, maybe? No clue on the livery…
Su-30MK2 Vietnam?
BINGO!
I hope you’re not gaming the system, Ed
Who me?
The G11? I’ll stick to the AR platform. They work and I know how to work on them if need be.
The plane looks Russian. I couldn’t say who’s flying the one in the picture.
I’m interested in the Kel-Tec RDB. Just for coolness factor.
I don’t much care for bullpups but if that’s what you want, go for it.
I can hardly feed my AK and my AR and other assorteds.
I agree with Jim the plane looks Russian and because of current affairs I’m guessing Belarusian.
I never understood why the Bundeswehr didn’t go with the 33 some countries did. I’ve never had a single issue with my 93s.Instead they went for a AR18 design wrapped in plastic instead of doing what the Swedes did when moving from their version of the G3. There is a good video at The Armorers Bench on the G11 with some disassembly and complex is an understatement.
I like my 91. Which is very much like the G3
This old Silverback will settle for a M-1 Garand.
They’re a fine rifle.
You both may get to use mine this summer…..
IDK what OSB plywood is, but that just looks like crummy chipboard, to me.
Probably still worth 500 bucks, or something.
-Kle.
Oriented Strand Board. Chipboard with really big chips. A way to make lumber product out of what would otherwise be worthless trees.
…and now $82 per sheet for 7/16 instead of $8.
Lumber and wood products, oil and gas, beef…all thanks to the treasonous legacy of The Hologram and his subversive POS Handlers. Now with The Fowch, the Dr. Mengele of our time, fully shown to be an evil bastard, how long before he doesn’t hang himself?
A massive charade to kill everything, even cheap OSB.
Go see what SiG posted about it today.
https://thesilicongraybeard.blogspot.com/2021/06/things-no-one-else-is-saying.html
Yup. I can’t stand subversiveness.
A bullpup configuration seems uniquely unsuited for a bayonet.
I think that it was added to meet a military requirement. I can’t imagine making a bayonet charge with the clunky G-11 under any circumstances.
That is one ‘strange’ HK, but then they hate their customers. I like my SCAR 17 heavy…
I was working in Beretta in the early ’90s. The HK was taken very seriously back then. I later learned a cartridge had broken up in the chamber. That put me off caseless once and for all. Plastic-cased or combination metal and plastic-cased cartidges, now, are another matter entirely. They also allow what I still think is the next step in kinetic small arms, Electro Thermal combustion weapons.
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