Range Day

 

For MSG Grumpy

 

Identify the Aircraft in the Meme

 

The Value of Training & Learning

Cope India 04 exercises pitted the Su-30MK and Mig 21 Bison against American F-15Cs. It surprised everyone when the Russian built Su-30 fighter achieved a kill ratio of 9:1

Most of the exercise was comprised of dogfighting scenarios within visual range (no beyond visual range – BVR- missiles and tactics were included).  US fighters tried to prevent intrusion by clusters of Mig-23 strike missions. There is valid criticism that the exercise excluded simulating the use of BVR missiles. Additionally, the radars used had limited capability on both sides.

The American pilots were trained to counter Cold War Soviet-era tactics and the Indian pilots used a series of improvised tactics which the American pilots did not anticipate and failed to counter.

One tactic was to closely formate dissimilar aircraft like the Mig-23 with Mig-21 so that when attacked the Mig-21 would peel off into a dogfight and the Mig-23 would continue covered by the Su-30s flying at different altitudes.

(above) an Indian Air Force formation of Mig-25 (top) below that a Mig-27 then Mig-29 another Mig-23 and at bottom a Mig-21. Mig-23 and Mig-27 look very similar.

Russian fighters equipped with the OLS-35 IR tracking ball allowed them to perform a trick called dropping into the Clutter Notch turning right angle to an approaching US fighter.

What this does is nullify the Doppler return. The Indians flying these Russian-built fighters turned side on and continued to observe their adversary and they disappeared from the American adversary’s radar.

Whilst neither side by agreement were allowed to simulate Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles had this been permitted the Clutter Notch technique would have broken radar lock for BVR missiles too.

The Mig-21 with hi-angle-off-bore sight missiles cued by the pilot with a helmet-mounted sight also proved superior to the F-15C in that specific situation.

That was 18 years ago and times have certainly changed, but the exercise offered lessons learned.

 

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The last KV-1 from the 133rd Tank Brigade was destroyed on the banks of the Volga opposite the ruins of the NKVD complex, Stalingrad. October 1942

 

Identify the Tank – extra points for the campaign

 

Identify the Aircraft – supply engine details

 

The United States of Disney

(CNN) Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Thursday signaled support for stripping Disney of its 55-year-old special status that allows the entertainment company to operate as an independent government around its Orlando-area theme park.

It’s the latest fallout in the feud between DeSantis, a Republican widely seen as a potential 2024 presidential contender, and Disney, Florida’s largest private employer, over a measure that bans schools from teaching young children about sexual orientation or gender identity.

After DeSantis signed the bill into law earlier Monday, the Walt Disney Company wrote in a statement that its “goal” was to get the law repealed or defeated in the courts.

DeSantis previously said Disney “crossed the line” with that statement. On Thursday, DeSantis went further, suggesting Disney’s “special privileges” could be lifted.

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23 COMMENTS

  1. Cope India 04 exercises. One wonders if our Air Force brass learned something from that and applied it? Similar to the Navy’s response to 1930’s war games exposing the vulnerability of Pearl Harbor?

  2. Nice looking AR-10. Hope you enjoy shooting it as much as I like shooting mine…I mean enjoyed since I lost it in the kayak accident on Lake Pend O’reille in ID. Unfortunately it was right where the lake is 1200 feet deep. Darn.

    The USAF has always had a tendency to focus on one tactic at a time, Usually preparing for the last war. I was told by a USAF pilot that he (F15C driver) was essentially a one trick pony. That was back in the 90s so is more dated info then what you presented above.

    • It’s a JP Arms LRP07.

      I’m taking it on a canoeing adventure. I’m sure that it will be safe.

      • JP Enterprises make some superlative firearms. Mine was simply a Remington R25 with a Vortex PST on it backfitted with a Timney trigger.

        • I assembled one last year primarily using Aero Precision parts. It started life as a Ballistic Advantage barrel that I found at an excellent price. Sadly that rifle lies on the bottom of Hillsdale Lake.

  3. Indian pilots used a series of improvised tactics which the American pilots did not anticipate and failed to counter.

    How quickly we forget the lessons learned in Viet Nam….

  4. Ratworld (aka: Disney) has been off the rails since Disney died. Iger’s reign of terror started the takeover by the lavender mafia, and things have only gone downhill.

    The Reedy Creek people have been running roughshod over Florida for far too long. And with the Disney board going actively anti-normal people, the curb-stomping that the Florida Legislature is about to give them is going to be epic.

    As to the planes, Kawasaki has always built some really nice planes. Their flying boats are some sexy beasts.

    That MkV is interesting looking. The sponson-mounted cannon seem to be missing, turning it into a very crappy APC, except with huge holes in the side.

  5. Yep, the Indians handed the USAF their asses. Those who ‘assume’ their tech is better are lost when they get into it with a peer who uses innovative tactics.

  6. Exercises are useful, but it’s important to remember that they are not real. The US has traditionally trained as if the OPFOR were actually better than, not only the real enemy, but also the average US unit.

    Cope India 04 was intentionally set up to make the Indian Air Force a ringer, so as to teach our pilots, and shake their complacency. I’m sure it was also built with many learning opportunities for the InAF. As it should be.

    As for real-life combat effectiveness, I will observe the results of real-life combat.

    -Kle.

    • There’s a guy who lives near me who flew the OV-10 and F-4 in Vietnam and transitioned to the F-15C. The dinner topic last night revolved around the F-15C vs MiGs. He’d flown against MiG-21s in the F-15 over the Nevada desert in OPFOR situations. He said that in close dogfights the MiGs performed well, and those experiences were good training evolutions, but many of those scenarios would likely never take place on the battlefield because the F-15 did engage beyond visual range, and the look-down shoot down features were not allowed in the games because it gave the F-15s too much of an advantage.

      • I believe that in many potential war situations, the use of BVR missiles will be limited or banned by ROE that require positive identification of the target to avoid shooting down airliners/ non military craft – and potential enemies either know this already or will figure it out quickly.
        We will be our own worst enemy.

        • I know that the skies over and near Ukraine cleared of commercial aircraft soon after hostilities began. IFF has evolved to the point with AWACS support that should a conflict over Ukraine arise, I’m confident that they can figure out who and where the enemy is.

          In the past, there were problems over the heavily flown Persian Gulf (USS Vincennes misidentification comes to mind.). It wasn’t so much a war as sniping action. I think that the situation in Ukraine today is quite different.

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